Westboro Baptist Church: Homosexuals Should Be Put to Death


stood in his jonathan phelps from the
west for a baptist church is the brother
of surely phelps roper also the son of
pastor fred phelps i see the family
resemblance of jonathan i think a good
place to start would be
twenty twelve election we have come down
to two candidates at this point for the
presidential election
uh… the the the realistic options are
reelecting president obama
or electing mit romney i’m curious what
what’s the you who were you support
well is six oh one half-a-dozen another
adult sport either
uh… i figured of mom’s gonna win but
uh… and being a lifelong democrat
you’d think i’d vote for him but
uh… and none
idaho for either of those fellas
on that topic i mean as it stands today
you know what we have president all
bomber who has
repeal don’t ask don’t tell as well as
basically said
he favors
blanket gave gay marriage
support the quality for gay and lesbian
couples
whereas mit romney has said marriage
should only be between a man in a woman
who wants a constitutional amendment
that would define a marriage as such it
would seem to me that that would be way
more in line with your views
well of course mitt romney’s a liar
it’s up i don’t believe anything he says
and uh…
i don’t think there’s a way the
difference between the two candidates
really uh…
yeah i i really believe that uh…
same sex marriages of faith
com play in this country
and uh… and have been saying that for
decades a couple of decades we’ve been
saying that
once that is even up for debate the
debate is
uh… the contest is over
interesting although i i don’t actually
really interesting because so
in the past when i’ve talked to for
example surely phelps roper your sister
and and a lot of other anti-gay nuts
i say you know you guys are gonna lose
on this one eventually we’re going to
have widespread marriage equality
and people like surely say it is not a
given but you’re saying for decades
you’ve considered eventually
there will be marriage equality for all
uh…
shit last time i checked shirlstein
annette
uh… in the last time i checked also
uh… shirl uh…
solidly stated
that it’s a fata com play ok does not in
the on camera doing with the other thing
i find it interesting
okay so howell for how long will it take
until we get for marriage equality in
your mind and then we have a handful of
states now but what time i know we
looking at
okay
soon amiable ical terms soon in fact it
if the terms i mean what they did it
what are we talking about
talking
uh… the supreme court united state
case will
and follow up to their earlier decisions
inconsistent with them
well mandate it
interesting ok will but that that i
think it’d be very very interesting
what’s guy wanting to talk to you use in
years ago and you said that while you
don’t think that there is any will on
the behalf of the government to put
homosexuals to death
that you personally supported that is
that still your view dr
wallace uh…
it’s stupid the view of the bible so
clear teaching of the bible that is what
is it
uh… righteously
established human government should be
following the rules of the bible
uh… that
mosaic code is very clear on that matter
this bunch of slugs and deeds the base
uh… the bottom tier of of him in
content
the constitute our government leaders
to talk in terms of them doing anything
righteous
oric trainee legitimate purpose
his joke no i understand that it so i i
mean i i’m i’m hearing a lot of the same
thing you said years ago but do you
believe that based on what the bible
says we should have
death penalty for homosexuality
absolutely
what would be as a method of death would
it be lethal injection i’d know that the
bible says you know the bible things
partial stoning in many cases what would
be the method in which you would say
homosexuals should be put to death
well of course
duly constituted
human government
bryce ously established
where it would not be uh…
uh… violation
of
those constitutional trip
premises yeah
uh…
that is that
they would not be uh…
and force mint of it
that would be
discriminatory
am which is
our current criminal justice system is
true
debilitated
and other problems but so what would be
the form of putting them to death
uh… human government would have to
step aside and since i’m not a involved
in that aspect of it
i’m not in china
art completely about oracle
personally or argue partial to stone
inks
kam completely rhetorical question known
when i’m partial to personally is people
repenting
that’s what i’m partial to it
all right lol so i guess we’re not gonna
get quite the answer was hoping for
their
question on this note
do you also believe
at women who were not virgins on their
wedding date should also be put to death
as indicated by deuteronomy twenty two
thirteen to twenty one
solicit it’s twenty two
thirteen to twenty one out and buy them
out of here sunday night i know you know
what’s in it and you also support that i
mean she would be putting to death all
all women who are not virgins verifiable
versions
with jennifer jones because tadi kan on
their wedding day
well of course
that
verse you’re referring to is is a matter
between
the spouse
sin that is married
and if they’re claiming
that a fraud was perpetrated on the
marriage and that is that the marriage
was entered into upon the explicit
representation
that she was virgin
uh… and frankly it would cut both ways
what but what would your honor me says
is that we’re talking we’re talking
about a story the men of her city phils
stone her with stones that she died that
is the word of god
both perpetrate a fraud on the marriage
and her husband
which would have been the cruelest thing
in the world for him to do frankly
claims that he was just throw it in some
way right so there’s a can happen
then that was that was the punishment
that was prescribed
but isn’t it interesting jonathan in
this applies also i mean you know would
be a daycare center on earlier both
pretty clear about the abomination of
consuming shellfish
isn’t it interesting how on the putting
homosexuals to death you’re very very
hard line but when it comes to stoning
than on virgins and you know you know
that in your own family
your sister has this child out of
wedlock fam phelps roper
there’s a lot of places where where you
people on your side say
well you know it’s is if this and if the
bad and so on and so forth as a lot of
equivocation
but not on homosexuality why is that is
a little or no there’s no there’s no
equivocation
if there’s not repentance of any of the
sense now
their serious consequences that can be a
member of the church they have no reason
why expectation of heaven
which you did was course she took a
sickly argument about a ceremony at the
law concerning the consumption as of the
ceremonial diet
and meeting you simply
by uh…
the wave of the hand-picked
put it on the same base
needed equal with
the moral off p_m_s_ nothing is an
investment legitimate
there’s nothing to do with at your side
jonathan who is he who was arbitrarily
taking
uh… well take taking that and taking
it down from the same level as
homosexual it’s all very arbitrary is in
and out of it as any bearing on the
login separation of church and state
well to several questions yeah uh…
paul made it very clear and peter made
america claire writing the book of acts
that the dietary repair law is no longer
applicable
to those who believe
god
but we had a mocha some historians the
virgin let’s focus on the spelling of
and of the nitrogen if they’re
if there was going to be
uh… duly constituted
rule of law
establish based upon the mosaic code
right bats
that moral law
it
isn’t forcible also ok alright so we’re
making that distinction
last thing i wanted to others that
there’s a serious distinction
because its ten-day because in the moral
law
predates
the dietary love the mosaic code
hey real jonathan and i know i don’t
know what it has been pits
you test minist full of the moral law it
is chock full and i agree that
why there’s so many kids leave
westborough of course we know of nate
felts and we’ve talked to him but
there’s also
libby alvarez formerly will be felt
we’ve got mark phelps catherine phelps
door of the bird formerly door of the
felt
is it because
of the physical violence why why is it
so many of these you’ve got people are
leaving the church
pretense
and the pretense all that alleged
uh… physical violence the navajo led
by both a nathan felt and surely phelps
roper have admitted to the beatings they
just didn’t both call them abuse
first of all
children are to be raised in the nurture
an admonition of the lord okay when
you’re just look
and when you’re just funny your child
pursuant
to them biblical standards is not abuse
so and the law does analog recognizes
that as it not being abuse and i can
cite you
case that we argued to the kansas
supreme court
work they try to make a crime
now check this out
the real question that ought to be posed
is how is it that there would be
nine children
uh… still here that’s the
miraculous thing
spiritually thing available why did you
make incredible that you off there given
that the treatment but why did the
others leave is my question
the the treatments
uh… was the best treatment that any
human
chop up
uh… ought to
and appreciate
uh… would receive when
why reprobate ps goin
off and wander into filth and the
battery myapp
is a question that i lied to your ex
expertise both on a personal and
professional level i’m sure well on i
was gonna hoping to get some sense from
you about about that okay
uh… last look absolutely lastly i’m
jewish but i’m relatively nonreligious
am i still going to hell and how can i
avoid that
well you have to repent just like every
other human does okay
just to get this because you pick that
pretense of the god
sunny different from the next fighting
the is another word i was born into a
jewish family
if you were born
into done
a system of false religious
teaching spoken
that ninety-nine point nine nine percent
of the population is romania mem met
many of the members of the west brobeck
church work
many of the people that
were born into this family
work expo
loose too many false religious systems
of which were adopted
and some of which were uh… had to be
uh… that they had to be taught while
eggs a false religious system
you’re not unique
you just a rebel like to rest up
you just said you got your virtue of
being born jewish on the rebel
of course ok ok not skip and i i don’t
see
but should no longer earn a little child
you now have to answer
stand on your own two feet in
get your big boy pants on and do you but
with the reality the situation yeah you
have you have a non billable ble duty
to learn what is required of you
and to to steal it
all right well hopefully during the next
interview
i would buy would be able to be talked
from you exactly how it how to do that
unfortunately today we’re out of time
jonathan phelps
a brother fairly phelps roper sana fred
phelps westborough baptist church of
course god hates fags as we know
i thank you so much jonathan for being
here today

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