PUTIN: EXCLUSIVE, FULL & UNEDITED Interview Of Russian President To Austrian TV

PUTIN: EXCLUSIVE, FULL & UNEDITED Interview Of Russian President To Austrian TV


ORF news presenter Armin Wolf: Mr President, your first foreign visit takes you to Austria.
Is this is a kind of incentive for a benevolent policy towards Russia on the part of the Austrian Government, which comes out against new EU sanctions and has not expelled any Russian diplomats over the ‘Skripal case’?
I do not think such a highly respected European state as Austria needs any incentives. We have long enjoyed good and profound relations with Austria.
Austria is our traditional and reliable partner in Europe. In spite of all the complications over the years, our dialogue in the sphere of politics, security and the economy has never been interrupted.
Our trade with Austria grew by 40.5 percent last year. We respect Austria’s position and its neutral status. Russia, of course, is one of the guarantors of this status, having taken part in the drafting of the state treaty.
We cooperate with the Austrian Republic in various spheres: in the economy, as I have said, in politics and security. In the economy, we cooperate in various areas.
Not only energy, though I would like to say more about it later on, but also in aircraft construction, aviation safety and hydroelectric engineering.
More and more Austrian capital is invested in Russia. We see this as a sign of trust in the economic policy pursued by the Government of the Russian Federation.
We are implementing major projects. Owing to our cooperation, Baumgarten, and therefore Austria, has become Europe’s biggest gas hub.
We have many common and similar interests, so we were glad to welcome Federal Chancellor Kurtz in Russia in February of this year.
It is out of these considerations that my visit to Austria is being prepared and I hope will take place soon.
The Russian Government partially maintains good relations with some members of the Austrian Government. In 2016, the United Russia party signed a partnership agreement with the Free Party of Austria.
Why this party in particular?
You said that the Russian Government maintains good relations with Austria and followed up this analysis from a purely party perspective.
I was a co-founder of the United Russia party, but I am not currently a member because I am the head of the Russian state.
It is true that the Russian Government is working in a very hands-on and fairly profound manner with their colleagues in Austria without displaying any political preferences.
As regards the policy towards Austria, we have a national consensus to some extent, there are no political forces that oppose the development of relations with Austria, but there may be some preferences at the political level, at the party level.
The fact that United Russia has established relations with the party you have mentioned – these are purely inter-party relations.
I am sure that United Russia would be happy to develop contacts with other political forces as well.
You headed this party for a long time, now Mr Medvedev is its leader. Many observers believe that the Russian leadership would like, through United Russia, to maintain links with nationalist parties because they want to divide the European Union.
How do you account for the close links between the Russian leadership and the parties that are critical of the European Union?
It would be better if you put this question to the Russian Prime Minister Mr Medvedev, who is the leader of the party.
But this is what I can say with a fair degree of certainty. It is not our aim to divide anything or anybody in Europe. On the contrary, we want to see a united and prosperous European Union, because the European Union is our biggest trade and economic partner.
The more problems there are within the European Union, the greater the risks and uncertainties for us.
The mere fact that our trade with European Union countries has dropped by half, from over 400 billion to 250 billion, speaks for itself.
Why do we need to see a further drop? Why rock the European Union in order to suffer further losses and incur costs or miss possible benefits from cooperation with the European Union?
On the contrary, we need to increase cooperation with the European Union. If we work at all or work more intensively with some than with others, we proceed from purely pragmatic considerations.
We seek to cooperate with those who publicly declare that they are ready and willing to cooperate with us.
This alone is the reason why our political parties, groups and movements have contacts at the political and party level with certain European ones, and not the wish to “rock” or impede something within the European Union.
We keep 40 percent of our gold and currency reserves in the euro. Why should we shake up all of this, including the single European currency as a derivative of the rocking of the Union?
I would like people in Austria and in the other European Union countries to put this idea out of their minds.
This notwithstanding, the governments of Western countries, Europe and, first of all, the United States, are accusing Russia of using hackers to meddle in other countries’ domestic politics.
In all of your interviews you say that this is not so; however, there is no doubt that the so-called Internet Research Agency based in St Petersburg has been seeking for many years to influence public debate on Facebook.
These so-called troll factories are owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin – you know him very well, he is referred to as “Putin’s chef”, since he caters for all your guests.
Is it good that a person who maintains such close relations with the Russian leadership is managing troll factories?
You said “Russia” and then switched to hackers, didn’t you? By saying “Russia”, did you mean Russia as a state, or some Russian citizens, hackers, or some legal entities for that matter?
I was speaking about Mr Prigozhin.
I will tell you about Mr Prigozhin. Please make a distinction between the Russian Government, Russia as a state, Russian citizens and certain legal entities.
You have just said that Mr Prigozhin is referred to as “Putin’s chef”.
Indeed, he runs a restaurant business, it is his job; he is a restaurant keeper in St Petersburg. But now let me ask you:
do you really think that a person who is in the restaurant business, even if this person has some hacking opportunities and owns a private firm engaged in this activity –
I do not even know what he does – could use it to sway elections in the United States or a European country?
Could it be that the media and political standards in the countries of the consolidated West have been driven down to such a low level that a Russian restaurant keeper can sway voters in a European country or the United States?
Isn’t it ridiculous?
Mr President, it may be good or bad but it is not the truth.
Mr Prigozhin does not only run restaurants, he has many businesses that have contracts with the Defence Ministry and receive a lot of government orders;
he spends millions of dollars on the troll factory and people there write these posts. Why does a restaurant keeper need this?
You can ask him. Russia as a state has nothing to do with this.
But you know the man very well.
So what? I know many people in St Petersburg and Moscow. Ask them.
There is such a personality in the United States – Mr Soros, who interferes in all affairs around the world.
I often hear from my American friends that ‘America as a state has nothing to do with [his activities]’. There are rumours circulating now that Mr Soros is planning to make the euro highly volatile. Experts are already discussing this.
Ask the State Department why he is doing this. The State Department will say that it has nothing to do with them – rather it is Mr Soros’ private affair.
With us, it is Mr Prigozhin’s private affair. This is my answer. Are you satisfied with it?
Mr Prigozhin, along with 12 other Russian citizens, has been indicted in the United States for meddling in the presidential elections.
You and Donald Trump talk so nicely over the telephone, but Trump has been President for a year and a half and there still has not been a bilateral summit between you,
in contrast to Bush and Obama with whom you met within the first six months of their presidencies. Why is it taking so long?
You should ask our colleagues in the United States. In my opinion, this is the result of the ongoing acute political struggle in the United States.
Indeed, Donald Trump and I have, firstly, met more than once at various international venues and secondly, we regularly talk over the phone.
Our foreign affairs departments and special services are working fairly well together in areas of mutual interest, above all in the fight against international terrorism. This work is ongoing.
As for personal meetings, I think that the possibility of these meetings depends to a large extent on the internal political situation in the United States.
The congressional election campaign is getting under way and then there will be the next presidential election, and the President of the United States is coming under attack over various matters. I think this is the main reason.
In a recent telephone conversation, Donald said he was worried about the possibility of a new arms race. I fully agree with him.
However, to prevent a possible arms race (we did not initiate such a course of events, we did not withdraw from the Anti-Missile Defence Treaty, we merely responded to the threats that arise for us from this, but I agree with the US President)
we should think about it, we should do something about it, give corresponding instructions to our Foreign Ministry and the US State Department.
The experts should start working in a concrete way. I hope that some day this work in the interests of the United States and Russia, indeed in the interests of the whole world will begin, including between us personally.
Many are worried about the situation in North Korea. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov recently visited there. Do you think a nuclear showdown between the United States and North Korea is a possibility?
I do not even want to think about it. It is a dreadful idea. Russia, of all countries, is not interested in it because North Korea is our neighbour.
Incidentally, one of the nuclear test sites, the one that I think North Korea is shutting down, is located, if my memory does not fail me, within 190 kilometres of the Russian border. This is something absolutely real for us.
Therefore, we will do all we can to ease tensions on the Korean Peninsula. So of course we pin great hopes on the personal meeting between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, because mutual claims have gone way too far.
I think this road – the road towards denuclearisation of North Korea – should be a two-way road.
If the North Korean leader is backing up his intentions with practical actions, for example, giving up new tests of ballistic missiles, new nuclear tests, the other side should reciprocate in a tangible manner.
In this connection, I consider it counterproductive to continue military activities, military exercises and everything that is related to this. I very much hope that the situation will move forward in a positive way.
We for our part are ready to bend every effort towards this end. We have always been in contact with the North Korean leadership; we offer several joint tripartite economic projects.
These are infrastructure projects, a railway from Russia to North Korea and further to South Korea, the pipeline project, work in the energy sector in a three-way or perhaps in a four-way format together with China.
Incidentally, China has done a great deal to direct the situation towards détente and denuclearisation.
If we pool our efforts, including in the framework of the Russia-China road map, our joint proposal to resolve the North Korean nuclear problem, I think we will achieve the desired results.
One of the most complicated issues with regard to Russia is Ukraine. In 2014, Flight MH17 was shot down in Ukraine, 290 people died.
The international investigative commission announced a few days ago that the jet was shot down by a Russian army missile system, that it was a convoy from Russia that had come to the Ukrainian insurgents in eastern Ukraine.
There is a video; there are telephone conversations and dozens of eyewitnesses. You have been saying that this is not true for about a year but practically nobody believes your words.
Are you not thereby putting the veracity of Russian statements at stake? Maybe it is time to acknowledge that the insurgents in eastern Ukraine used Russian military equipment to commit that horrendous crime?
I want to note that both sides to the conflict – the Ukrainian army and even Ukrainian volunteer battalions who are accountable to nobody save their commanders, and the Donbass militia, the armed units in Donbass – they all use Soviet and Russian-made weapons.
All of them. The two sides have all sorts of systems – both firearms, aviation, and anti-aircraft systems. All of them were made in Russia.
But now they know what missile it was: a Buk system missile. It was a Russian army brigade in Kursk. This is known for a fact, yet you still deny it.
Would it not be better to admit that the missile had indeed come from Russia? Would it not be better to officially acknowledge that Russia supported the insurgents in the east of Ukraine with weapons?
If you collect all your patience and let me finish, you will find out my view on this issue.
As I said, both sides use Russian-made weapons, and the Russian army has exactly the same systems the experts are talking about, which were certainly manufactured in the former Soviet Union or in Russia. This is number one.
Number two. Russian experts have been denied access to the investigation, our arguments are not taken into consideration, and nobody in the commission is interested in hearing us out.
Conversely, the Ukrainian side, which is a party interested in the results of the investigation, has access to it.
Meanwhile, it is responsible at least for failing to prohibit civilian aircraft to fly in the conflict zone in violation of ICAO’s international norms.
We are still unable to get answers to some questions regarding the activities of Ukrainian air forces in that region, at that place and at that time.
The tragedy we are talking about is terrible, and I feel immensely sorry for the victims and their families, but this investigation must be objective and comprehensive.
Just a second, please, do not rush. Let me speak, otherwise we are going to have a monologue on your part instead of an interview.
Nevertheless, let me say briefly – yes, we know where the missile came from. But what do Holland, Australia or Malaysia have to gain by blaming Russia if it was not a Russian missile that belonged to the Russian army?
We do not see it that way; we have a different point of view. You now listed countries that allegedly believe that it was a Russian missile and that Russia is implicated in that terrible tragedy.
I regret to disappoint you. Quite recently, Malaysian officials declared that they do not see Russia’s complicity in that tragic event; they have no proof that Russia is implicated.
Are you really not aware of that? Did you not see the statements by Malaysian officials?
What do we think about this issue? If we really want to get to the bottom of things in that horrendous event and reveal all the factors that would allow us to render a final conclusion,
all arguments should be taken into account, including the ones offered by Russia. And it would be entirely fair for Russian experts to have access to the investigation.
The international investigative commission now claims that they have in fact taken into account all arguments.
Many people do not believe Russian arguments because a few years ago in Crimea you said that the famous “green men,” the fighters in green uniforms without identifying insignia, were all local self-defense forces.
But a little later it was revealed that they were indeed Russian soldiers. After that, you admitted many times that those were Russian army personnel even though you denied that earlier. Why should we believe you now?
Now that you mentioned Crimea. Do you know that in the mid 2000s, right in the vicinity of Crimea, a Russian civilian jet was downed over the Black Sea?
It was done by the Ukrainian army during a drill. And the first reaction of the Ukrainian officials was that Ukraine had nothing to do with it. A civilian plane was shot down en route from Israel to Russia.
Everyone onboard died, of course. Ukraine flatly denied its involvement in that terrible incident but had to admit it later.
And why should we believe Ukrainian officials? So in response to your question about Crimea, I put the ball back in your court.
I am not talking about Ukrainian officials, I am talking about you. You said many times in 2014 that you used the Armed Forces in Crimea to block Ukraine’s interference.
Later you admitted though that the Russian army was in Crimea, something you had denied before.
Russian forces have always been stationed there. Look, I would like you to try to understand what was actually happening there, not just repeat these things mechanically.
Russian forces have always been present in Crimea. Our military contingent was there.
One second, please, let me finish. Do you want to fire questions non-stop or hear my answers?
The first thing we did when the events in Ukraine began… What kind of events? Let me tell you now, and you will say yes or no.
It was an unconstitutional armed coup and seizure of power. Yes or no? Will you tell me?
I am not an expert on the Ukrainian Constitution.
You do not have to be an expert on Ukraine; you just need to be an expert on law, on the constitutional law of any country.
I would not like to talk about Ukrainian politics, but about Russian politics. Allow me to phrase it differently. What should happen in order for Russia to return Crimea to Ukraine?
There are no such conditions and there can never be.
I will tell you why. You interrupted me again, but if you actually let me finish, you would understand what I mean. I will still do it.
When the unconstitutional armed coup took place in Ukraine, and power changed hands by force, our army was legally deployed in Crimea – under the agreement on our military base there.
The first thing we did was increase our contingent to guard our Armed Forces, our military facilities, because we immediately saw that they were being threatened. That is where it all began.
I told you with confidence that there was no one else there, but our Armed Forces were there legally under an agreement.
Let me finish, for God’s sake. (Speaks German.) Seien Sie so nett, lassen Sie mich etwas sagen. [Please be so kind as to let me say something.]
I hate to interrupt you, but it is not about the Russian Black Sea Fleet. It was certainly based there.
It is about those uniformed fighters without insignia. You said they were Crimeans, but they were not Crimeans; they were Russian servicemen.
I will get to this, please be patient. We have enough time.
Our servicemen had always been stationed there. I said: our servicemen were there, but they did not get involved.
But, when unconstitutional actions in Ukraine began to unfold, when people in Crimea felt danger, when trains started bringing aggressive nationalists there, when buses and personal vehicles were blocked, people naturally wanted to protect themselves.
And the first thing that occurred was to restore the rights that Ukraine itself had issued by granting Crimea autonomy. This is where it all began – with a procedure in the parliament to establish its independence from Ukraine.
Now, is this strictly prohibited by the United Nations Charter? No, it is not.
The right of nations to self-determination is clearly stated there. And what did our Armed Forces do, even without expanding the contingent stipulated by the military base agreement?
They ensured the independent free elections – an expression of the will of the people living in Crimea.
By the way, the decision to hold this referendum was made by the Crimean parliament, which was elected in strict accordance with the Constitution and the laws of Ukraine before any such events.
Therefore, nothing illegal …
Just a second.
As far as I know, the parliament had no right to make this decision. But let us continue our conversation.
The annexation of Crimea was the first time a country in Europe annexed part of another country against its will.
This was really seen as a threat to neighbouring states, from Poland to the Baltic states, because it was assumed that minorities in these countries could also receive protection from Russian forces.
You know, if you do not like my answers, then do not ask me questions. But if you want to hear my opinion on the issues that I raise, then you need to have patience. I need to finish.
So, Crimea gained independence through the free will of the Crimeans expressed in an open referendum, not as a result of an invasion by Russian forces.
You are talking about annexation, but can we call a referendum held among all people living in the region annexation? Then Kosovo’s self-determination was also annexation.
Why do you not say Kosovo was annexed after the invasion of NATO troops? You do not say that. You are talking about the Kosovars’ right to self-determination.
The Kosovars did this by a parliamentary decision alone, while the Crimeans did it in a referendum, with an over 90 percent voter turnout –
people living in Crimea came to vote for independence, and then for uniting with Russia, with about the same turnout – about 90 percent.
Is this not democracy? What is it then? And what is democracy?
Mr President, the referendum was still unconstitutional.
Why?
It did not comply with the Ukrainian legislation, the Ukrainian Constitution. It was not a free referendum, Western observers say.
As for what you are saying about Kosovo, you have called Kosovo’s declaration of independence immoral and illegal, and have not recognised it yet. How can this be?
This is quite possible, and I will tell you why.
Because during the political changes and military conflict in the former Yugoslavia, the UN Court issued a decision with regard to Kosovo (I can give you a quote), which explicitly said (read it and then read it out loud for your viewers and listeners):
“The consent of the central authorities of the country is not mandatory in determining the issues of sovereignty.” This is how the UN Court commented on the Kosovo events, and now you are saying…
There were some very clear conditions there that were not met in Crimea. This is what all international observers say.
What are they?
There is no one who would recognise that vote, there is no one who would recognise the annexation.
Your arguments sound completely unconvincing, because no one has to recognise the will of citizens residing in a certain area.
This fully complies with the UN Court decision. There is no other interpretation, but some people are trying to find ways to interpret this situation differently.
May I take you at your word?
Try it.
If so, then apparently people in Chechnya, Daghestan and Ingushetia could also organise a referendum and secede from Russia? Or organise an Islamic caliphate in your territory?
Indeed, Al-Qaeda extremists wanted to tear off this territory from the Russian Federation and form a caliphate from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea.
I do not think that Austria and Europe would have been happy about it, or anything good would have ever come of it.
But the Chechen people made an entirely different decision during voting, and eventually signed an agreement with the Russian Federation following a discussion after all the bloodshed.
The Russian Federation, too, had to take a very difficult decision to give Chechnya and many other regions a status that determines the high level of their autonomy within the Russian Federation.
Ultimately, that was the decision of the Chechen people, and we are very happy about this and we stick to those agreements.
Incidentally, the same could be done in Ukraine in regard to Donbass. Why has this not been done yet?
Then Ukraine would not have to limit the use of the languages ​​of foreign minorities, meaning not only Russian, but also Romanian, Hungarian and Polish.
They do not seem to discuss this much in Europe, but it is a modern reality.
The last question on Ukraine. Do you think the Ukrainian problem would be resolved if Ukraine declared itself a neutral country like Sweden or Austria and would not join NATO?
This is one of the problems, but not the only one. I have already mentioned the limited use of native languages ​​of ethnic minorities.
Ukraine adopted the law on language, which was criticised, including in Europe, but it is in force. This largely complicates the situation in Ukraine.
But I will remind you – and these are the things very few people know about – that the ideologists of Ukrainian independence, Ukrainian nationalists insisted on creating a sovereign Ukrainian state, independent from Russia, as early as in the 19th century.
But many of them also spoke about the need to maintain good relations with Russia, the need to form an independent Ukrainian state on federative principles, and so on.
As early as in the 19th century. Today, I would say it is one of the most sensitive internal issues in Ukraine. And Ukraine is doing it itself.
As for the neutral status, this issue is up to the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian leadership.
For us, for Russia, the important thing is that there would be no military facilities in Ukraine that could threaten our security, such as new missile defence systems aimed at thwarting our nuclear potential.
This is indeed important for us, I am telling you frankly. But ultimately, this is the choice of the Ukrainian people and the country’s legitimately elected authorities.
I would like to ask you a question about Syria before we move on to Russia. You say everyone is talking about the use of chemical weapons there, but the story was invented, since al-Assad and his army have no chemical weapons.
Now there is proof that, although some of the attacks were indeed carried out by terrorists, al-Assad’s forces accounted for others, many of them in fact.
Nevertheless, Russia is blocking the decision to extend the commission’s work. Why are you doing this? Why are you defending a regime that uses chemical weapons against its people?
You just said there is proof accepted by everyone that al-Assad used chemical weapons. Well, not by everyone.
Our experts tell it differently. For example, the case that was the reason for missile strikes against Syria after the alleged chemical attack in the city of Douma.
Look. The Syrian troops liberated that area. We immediately suggested to our partners that the OPCW commission go there, it is a UN unit, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
They headed for Syria, and reached a neighbouring country, Lebanon I think. But, instead of waiting one or two days and allowing the commission to work on the site, a missile attack was made on Syria.
Tell me, please: is this the best way to ensure the objectivity of what happened there? I do not think so.
I think it was an attempt to create conditions that would make it impossible to investigate thoroughly. That is what it was.
After that, we found people there who admitted to having participated in staging the chemical attack. If you did not see it, it would be very useful for objectivity, so that your viewers could have their own opinion on this matter.
We found children and their parents who were drenched in water and who said they did not understand what was happening.
We brought them to The Hague to show everyone. Nobody wanted to listen to them. And after that you tell me: “Everyone recognises the use of chemical weapons.”
Not everyone. We believe it is fake news, used as a pretext for the missile attack, which is a violation of international law. That was aggression against a sovereign state.
Who mandated an attack on a sovereign state? The UN Security Council? No. So, what was that? Aggression.
Mr President, we should not talk about Douma, because the investigation is still underway there, but the international commission proved that before that, the Syrian regime had used chemical weapons often enough. And after that you wrapped this commission up in the UN.
Because its work is being hindered. Missile attacks were carried out days before it was to start working in Douma. What was that for? This is the first point.
Second. The case should be investigated objectively, and we will recognise it.
You just said there is proof that militants used chemical substances and chemical weapons. Who punished them? Tell me.
That same commission …
No, I am asking you, who punished them? Have they received any punishment? Did the coalition attack them immediately? I did not see anything like this.
Mr President, I am being told that we are running out of time. I would like to talk about Russia since there is very little time left.
Sure.
During the election race in 2012, you promised that you will significantly improve the quality of life in Russia by 2020.
However, in the subsequent years, economic growth has remained rather weak, under two percent. Wages have gone down in the past two years and the number of people below the poverty line has increased compared to 2012.
Are you really just looking for foreign policy challenges to justify domestic problems?
I want everybody who thinks like that to calm down. Since 2012, Russia has been through some very difficult challenges in the economy.
And that was not only related to so-called sanctions or restrictions. It was primarily due to a drastic drop in the prices of our traditional export products.
The prices dropped by half.
That affected the budget revenue and, therefore, people’s income. But we managed to do the main thing – and our colleagues, including IMF senior officials, acknowledged that just recently at the St Petersburg International Economic Forum.
We achieved the main thing, which is to preserve and strengthen the macroeconomic stability in the country.
Indeed, wages have sagged a bit along with people’s incomes but if you look back to the beginning of our journey, the number of people below the poverty line is now half the number in 2000.
Half that number. Between 2012 and 2016 and in 2017 the figure ticked upward but it is levelling out now.
The inflation rate was 12.5 percent, almost 13 percent, and now it is the lowest in modern Russian history – 2,5%.
Our gold and foreign currency reserves are growing. After the collapse I mentioned, stable economic growth began to show.
Yes, it is modest at the moment (1.5 percent) but fixed investment is growing at 4.4 percent, which guarantees further economic growth.
Foreign direct investment has almost doubled. As I said, both the Central Bank gold and foreign currency reserves and the Government reserves are growing. We have created great conditions for the next steps on economic development, which we will definitely take.
You have been President or Prime Minister for 18 years. Some people say that you have turned a country that was on its way to democracy into an authoritarian system, that you are a ‘tsar’ here. Is it true?
No, it is not true. It is false and completely detached from reality because Russia is a democracy and we all live under the Constitution.
And our Constitution says (just like the Austrian Constitution, I think) that the President can serve no more than two consecutive terms.
That is why after two legitimate terms I left office, I did not try to change the Constitution and went on to serve in another role, as Prime Minister of the Russian Federation.
After that, as you know, I came back in 2012, ran for president and won the election. One presidential term in Russia is six years – also like in Austria, I think.
The voter turnout in the recent election was almost 70 percent. This is almost half of all Russian citizens.
International observers had no serious criticism as to how the election was organised or regarding the election results.
Therefore, there is no doubt that democracy has taken hold in Russia. It is in our interests that the country follows a democratic path of development and it will.
The same goes for other elections, municipal and regional. Hundreds of elections take place across the country and unfailingly bring success to the political forces that win people’s trust.
However, the most prominent opposition leader in Russia, blogger Alexei Navalny, could not run for president this time. You still have never said his name in public, Alexei Navalny, even once. Why?
We have many rebels here, just like in your country and the United States.
In my conversation with your colleague I already mentioned that there was a movement in the US called Occupy Wall Street. Where are they now? Gone.
Are there not also plenty of people in Europe and Austria who promote extreme views and try to manipulate the difficulties and problems in society? Specifically, problems related to corruption.
In Ukraine, for example, which we discussed, one of the opposition’s slogans when it came to power was fighting corruption.
And what is happening there now corruption-wise? What does Europe say about corruption in Ukraine? Everybody is criticising the Ukrainian leadership for not doing enough in that area.
Why do you think that we… One moment…
Why will you not say his name publicly?
I will say it…
You are not letting me finish, you are being so impatient. We do not want to deal with another Saakashvili, the former Georgian president.
We do not want any second, third or fourth edition of Saakashvili on our political scene. Do you like this kind of personas, a poor excuse for a politician?
Here in Russia, we need people with a positive agenda who understand our problems deeply rather than just recite them, and we have plenty of problems just like Austria or any other country.
It is easy to pick a problem and start spinning it and position yourself as the one with the solution. But without a positive starting point and ideas about how to solve problems or deal with an issue, people will not respond.
Believe me, Russian voters are plenty sophisticated. They do not just pay attention to attractive slogans. They want to see the solutions you are proposing. And if no solution is proposed the candidate will not get noticed. What is the question about? If a person…
But voters did not even have a chance to get a look at this candidate because he could not run.
Voters can get a look at anyone because the internet is free. Nobody blocked him. Our mass media is free.
People are free to speak out and make a name for themselves as representatives of many political movements do.
If a person gains stature in the eyes of voters, he or she becomes a figure for the country’s leaders to engage in a dialogue with.
But if a political organisation has the trust of one, two, three percent of people or just hundredths of a percent, then what is there to talk about?
Then we get a Saakashvili. And we do not need clowns.
I see. In the 2013 election in Moscow, Navalny got 27 percent.
How many do you think voted for yours truly in Moscow in the recent election? Not for Moscow Mayor but for President? How many do you think? Look into it.
I would guess more than 27 percent. It is just that Navalny could not really run.
Yes, way more, for which I am very grateful to Muscovites. Because Moscow voters are very sophisticated. And we are not talking about a mayoral election. We are talking about a presidential election.
By the end of this presidential term you will be over 70 years old.
I hope.
And you will have been in power for over 20 years. As such, you will not be able to run again according to the Constitution. After this presidential term, will you leave politics or stay in power as Prime Minister?
Which would you prefer?
It does not matter at all. I am interested in what you prefer.
My presidential term has just begun. I am only at the beginning of this journey so let’s not jump ahead.
I have never violated the Constitution of my country and I am not going to. A lot depends on the kind of job we do (and by “we” I mean myself and my team) and what results we can achieve.
But you are right, I have been in public administration, government service, for quite a long time and I need to make a decision on what I am going to do when the current term ends.
People are speculating that a referendum will be held to make you, like Xi Jinping in China, president for life. Is it possible in Russia?
I do not comment on speculation. I think it is beneath the President of the Russian Federation.
Then, my last question, perhaps a little unusual. There are many photos of you half-naked, which is rather unusual for a head of state.
These photos were not taken by paparazzi or tourists. They were published by the Kremlin. What is the story behind these photos?
You said ‘half-naked’ not ‘naked,’ thank God. When I am on vacation I see no need to hide behind the bushes, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Mr President, you are known to be fluent in German. You have already said a few words.
Perhaps, as we finish this conversation and in light of your upcoming visit to Austria, you could say something to our audience in German?
Vielen Dank für Ihre Aufmerksamkeit. [Thank you for your attention.]

100 comments

  1. Putin cannot handle real journalists or real accountability. That's why he was so exasperated. He didn't get the stage-managed deference that he is used to amongst the Russian 'journalists'. Like a true wannabe-Tsar, he is affronted by anyone asking tough questions. He has a fragile and psychologically flawed personality, one that craves only adulation. Any criticism burns his thin skin. Putin is a poor and weak man's idea of a strong person.

  2. These are the European Unie Member States who are not part of the NATO. Austria, Cyprus,

    Finland, Ireland, Malta and Sweden. However, these countries are a member of the NATO

    Partnership for Peace.That means that These EU countries are as good as NATO members!! This leaves room for discussion about whether this is compatible with its strong tradition of neutrality claimed by
    Austria and the other countries in the list.

    Maybe two of three decades ago these strong tradition for neutrality was firmly respected by these countries but with the strong changes in the geopolitical arena, The European Union Common Defence Policy is now as much of a binding factor as NATO. And for European defence purposes, the EU countries are as good as NATO members, even if not pledged to help defend North America and Turkey.

    Keeping these developments in the NATO organization in mind, it is fair to say that this journalist is a
    sell-out of the NATO and the Anglo-American Intelligence Agencies and that he is just following orders and asking the questions that the Intelligence Agencies would like (but cannot) to ask directly to President Putin.

    All these inquisitive and provocative questions were Very Deep State indeed!!

    Here is the explanation of how paid propaganda against Russia (of any other country for that matter) works.

    European media writing pro-US stories under CIA pressure – German journo

    https://youtu.be/sGqi-k213eE

    Non-Official Covers= Journalists who are working for Central Intelligence Agencies.

    @10:00: “They are respected journalists but if you look behind them you will find out that they are the
    puppets on the strings, working for the Central Intelligence Agencies”

  3. All these inquisitive and provocative questions were Very Deep State indeed!!

    Here is the explanation of how paid propaganda against Russia (of any other country for that matter) works.

    European media writing pro-US stories under CIA pressure – German journo

    https://youtu.be/sGqi-k213eE

    Non-Official Covers= Journalists who are working for Central Intelligence Agencies.

    @10:00: “They are respected journalists but if you look behind them you will find out that they are the
    puppets on the strings, working for the Central Intelligence Agencies”

  4. This austrian journalist must be fucked by genders till he/she get pregnant and shut the fuck up for good ! I can smell this MF stinks like all other liberals poor paid bastard who take money for USA suggestions …

  5. The complete Interview was already removed from Internet as the Austrian Broadcasting Cooperation ORF is claiming it it's property. But Austrian citizens are forced to pay for ORF services monthly! An act of sheer
    expropriation. https://youtu.be/cOIZWfwOsmg

  6. Unbelievable the patience Putin shows with this snake of an asshole. The Nazionist troll is totally out of place here. I hope he slips over a banana peel and breaks his neck.

  7. putinists are mad because putin couldnt answer one question here properly but kept avoiding giving real responses

  8. Putin lies as he breathes.
    Russia invaded Crimea – there are thousands of traces of massive troops deployment from the Russian territory before the so-called "referendum" on social media that are visible even to the OSINT groups, e.g. https://informnapalm.org/43621-spisok-1097-kak-18-aya-omsbr-okkupirovala-krym/
    Buk came from the 53d Aerial Defence Brigade in Kursk. Again, lots of traces even on social media.
    Russia is a clear conflict side in Donbas, supplying not only Soviet types of weapons that are indeed used by both sides, but also newer types of Russian weaponry that are operated only by the Russian army: https://informnapalm.org/db/russian-aggression/#lang=en&page=m_equip
    There are dozens of armament systems, some of them very sophisticated and expensive…
    There are clear links between all kinds of eurosceptic parties and forces with Russia. Putin confidently cites economic figures, which are in the government's field of responsibility. But shied away from talking about the support to FPÖ, Front National, UKIP and the likes.
    This list can be easily continued.

    The two reasons what ORF and western media in general still bother to talk with this liar is because his country holds the largest arsenal of nukes and about 40% of world's natural resources…

  9. what a stupid journalist, he really pisses me off..he`s just not on putins level, And a flat out liar too

  10. Unverschämter, dauergrinsender Fragender, der leider seine offensichtliche eigene Meinung von Präsident Putin nicht bestätigt bekommt. Dieser Präsident hat leider (für den Fragenden – ich möchte diesen Herrn nicht Journalist nennen) einfache Erklärungen und ein großes Fach- und Geschichtswissen. Da muß der Fragende doch schnell durch weitere Fragen unterbrechen, bevor der Präsident weitere unangenehme Erklärungen gibt bzw. Fakten darstellt. Der Frager sollte sich eine Diskussionsrunde bei KenFM ansehen, um zu erkennen, wie Journalismus geht.

  11. I'm sorry but I don't understand The Ukrainian Constitution, but the annexation of Crimea was unconstitutional because…because…Western countries did not recognize the referendum

  12. CNN Crap national news sent him paid for by the deep state aka deep Aholes . Putin is Superior Long live Putin

  13. That was a very good interview! Armin Wolf insisted to dig deeper into the issues and withstood the reactions of Putin (7:52) who tried to ridicule the questions instead of taking them seriously. May the majority of Russians think what they want about their President. He might even be doing good things for some Russian people. His attitude shows though that there are things which seem to make him nervous. The claims against his administration are clearly making him nervous and he is laughing them off.

  14. Armin Wolff is no Journalist, he is the opposite of journalisme, even in criminal ways, using his position. he's a nothing, but believes he can do whatever he likes, a little wannabe dictator. only propagating his own political view, oppinion and interests and uses his Position to eliminate people. unfortunately he is very stupid as well, what makes it even worse. no one can stand him and everybody knows what he is doing. this left criminal. but Austrian people are too nice, they don't want to harm anyone and tolerating everything. he has been harming Austria a lot the past 30 years. I wish someone would sue him, or the Institution observing Austrian journalism would finally protect us. he has no right to be a journalist. Putin as usual is kind and understanding, though this stupid arrogant Armin Wolff doesn't even deserve an Interview with him!

  15. Putin makes a good point. What's stopping Ukraine from offering federal autonomy to majority-minority areas? Ukrainians and Georgians were all too happy to jump the Soviet ship themselves, but if Abkhaz or Osetian or Donbass people want a divorce, it's war? It boggles the mind how so many otherwise intelligent-looking people expect Communist gift of Crimea to Ukraine (theft from Russia) to long survive Communist rule.

  16. The CFR, the paid Atlantic Council, the paid EU-bureaucrats, the Banks, the corporates, Soros & paid CFR/CIA-controlled Western Media, in short, the Globalists are against Russia for obvious reasons. But a more significant part of the people, not only in Austria but in whole Europe are pro-Putin. Please have a look at the polls in Europe. Putin is fantastic in this interview. The interviewer sweats blood and tears, gorgeous!! Without his little papers, he would be f**ked.

  17. Viele viele Deutsche lieben Russland und verachten die NATO bitte lieber Herr Präsident Putin verachten sie die Deutschen nicht wegen ihrer Regierung. Hoffentlich ändern sich bald die Zustände.

  18. Our mexican president should have invited Putin instead of Trump, to bad the USA empire is using our corrupted neo-liberal politicians to take away our natural resourses, Trump and the corps have stolen our oil in order to fight against Rusia and China. Now, USA-Zionists corps are taking away our water by privitazing it so they may do with it as they please and keep our mexican people under slavement. The Jim Crow law has extende and modernize.

  19. Putin talking about CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, ha ha ha ha ha, very funny! )))) It is like cannibal talking about vegan diet.

  20. bye-bye putin!прощай, преступник путин. добро пожаловать в Гаагу.это воровское нечто говорит про ,капиталы, дебил.

  21. Жулик путин , мечется как уж на сковородке , пытаясь при этом бровадиться что всех обманул.

  22. 41:30 What a honest answer! Oh and he he knows how to clam down people. Google for "Boris Nemtsov".

    Journalist preparation about all Ukraine events is horrible, like he got info from yellowest newspaper. And I have no idea how EU not yet annoyed to death to bring up mh17 topic (in the end, no facts, no reasons, nothing really known, just BRING IT and accuse randomly one of sides).

    Russian questions are not much better, like "troll fabric" is outdated by about 5 years and is small part of propaganda machine which clearly studies human animal reflexes to develop effective mass control mechanisms over TV and internet. For example it puts opposition activist (for unproved attempt of throwing a stone to militia) to jail with hired murderers, they beat him up to death reliquary and this goes on front lines of news. This is his way of solving growing protests problem. Of course part about fake comments is correct, Russian internet is full of deliberately thrown in manipulation comments and blogs.

    One thing is great here: in Russia he will never be positioned as just hired worker who must response with his head for his actions. No critics allowed, no dialog (mostly fake talks with actors who impersonate someone). No one can stop him when he avoid answering questions or when he put's another crime friend in government.
    Very much possible they studied this journalist and found him to be predictable and unable to ask sharp questions, therefore agreed for interview. Putin never fights with stronger or equal enemies.

  23. Österreichischer Hamlo – so wird es genauer sein. Lange Zeit hat so eine Unhöflichkeit seitens eines Journalisten (ein Journalist der Österreicher mit einer großen Dehnung und dann nennen es hart) nicht gesehen. Im Vergleich dazu habe ich das Interview mit Grybauskaite gesehen, wo sie über unkoordinierte Themen hysterisch wurde und den Journalisten sogar rausgeschmissen hat.

  24. Auf dem Verhalten während des Interviews mit Putin habe ich noch nicht verstanden, dass er ein Journalist ist. Die ganze Zeit verteilt er schmutzige Tricks mit drei Bedeutungen und freut sich. Die interne Identifikation der eigenen Identität geht verloren, während das Programm eines anderen investiert wird.

  25. Ja, dieser sogenannte "Journalist" hat tatsächlich keine Fragen gestellt, und alle "Interviews" haben einfach "wie jeder weiß", "jeder glaubt", "jeder ist überzeugt" angegeben, und dann waren die Antworten von Vladimir Vladimirovich ihm und ihm nicht passend Während der Antworten versuchte er zu töten und fügte seine eigenen "Antworten" zu seinen eigenen "Fragen" hinzu. Ich hoffe, dass dieser "Interviewer" in unserem Land mit niemandem mehr arbeiten wird.

  26. in der Tat ist dieser Journalist weit von Professionalität, uninteressanten Fragen, langweilig.

    Lassen Sie sich in Lehrlinge absteigen, um mit Megin Kelly zu beginnen;)

  27. der inkompetentste / non-professional Journalist, der Putin interviewte Und vor diesem Showman ist es klar, dass er selbst der Basar-Weiler in seiner Show war. Wahrscheinlich hat die Reaktion des Publikums dazu geführt.

  28. Great interview. Thank you very much.
    Reminds me of Nixon and Frost. That's real journalism in action.

  29. NO WAY! This was not an interview. This was a barge of accusations. This guy's intention was to accuse President Putin, and a tireless attempt to get him angry. He was never interested to getting an answer. Every time he was given an answer he would disagree. haha .. Why? Well because that was his point. However President Putin is way too smart for these kind of so-called journalist which are essentially idiots. With LOVE from an intelligent American.

  30. Nice example of 'Whataboutism'!

    Putin is asked about meddling in elections and starts to talk about Soros in the US.
    Putin is asked about Crimea and starts to talk about Kosovo.

    When the interviewer wants to get back on topic Putin calls him rude :p

    They should show the interview in a mediatraining course.

  31. Amazing. A 50-minute-interview and Putin manages to say absolutely nothing substantial, completely incapable of giving a straight answer to to straight question.
    …well, obviously not as much 'incapable' as simply 'unwilling'. Putin does not know of anything, one should always ask others. But one thing is certain: international developments are never Russia's fault. MH17 is not Russia's fault, even though an international team of investigators, after years of research, wrote an elaborate report coming to the conclusion that the plane was shot down by a BUK of a Russian brigade stationed in Kursk. What was the conclusion of the russian investigators again? Oh yes, it changes every couple of weeks. Oh, Putin lied about self-defense forces aka green men that 'liberated' the oppressed Crimean population? A misunderstanding, Putin actually was talking about russian military that was stationed in Sevastopol. Nevermind all the media coverage and tv interviews where Putin precisely denied involvement of Russian military (why would Russian military take off their insignia anyway even they were simpy heroically defending the 'oppressed Crimean population) before turning the story around. Western fake news. Obviously.
    Oh, and so it is hypocritical that the West saw the declaration of Kosovo as legal but the annexation of Crimea as illegal. When pressed that Russia does not recognize Kosovo as an independent state, he does a 180° turn and refers to a UN court of justice decision that allegedly states that consent of the central authorities s not mandatory for issues of sovereignty. Putin brings this point up a lot, unfortunately, he never specifies what court decision he is refering to. The UN Court of Justice issued an ADVISORY OPINION on the accordance of the declaration of independence with international law. Mind you, not the independence or sovereignty of Kosovo but the DECLARATION of independence. More precisely, they focussed on the question, whether the declaration of independence was a violation of Security Council Resolution 1244. Asked whether that means that Chechnya, Daghestan and Ingushetia can declare independence after a referendum, Putin does a 180° turn back. Of course it doesn't mean that.
    The reply to the Syria question made me laugh. How inept was that. And Putin was a trained KGB agent? Shit! So the Assad regime cannot have used chemical weapons because Russian experts say that Assad does not have chemical weapons and that the attacks were staged. Experts of the Russian government, allied with the Syrian regime, say that the syrian regime did not use chemical weapons. How very deeply convincing. Why not quote the statements of Syrian experts, too?

    Story time with Uncle Putin on the derailing express.

  32. It must be strange for a dictator to be "challenged"… I suppose Putin's used to people listening to him and obeying the commands.

  33. we need smarter people in journalism. People who prepare their questions and anticipate responses so they can comment on them and give a good rebuttal instead of "I'm not familiar with this and that" IF YOU'RE going to ask questions about a certain topic to one of the most influential people on earth FFS be prepared. Such a wasted opportunity to grill him for his human rights violations, political corruptness, complete media control. HE EVEN LET HIM SLIP on the fact that Putin first said 'these are not our troops' and then he openly admitted those were russian troops. It's a simple push on a lie and misleading people and he didn't do that.. how hard can it be..

  34. Stop licking Putin's balls and tell me why he lied about not sending Russian troops to Crimea and pretended that the green soldiers were not russian

  35. I'm an Austrian and it is because of talking-head clowns like this man that I do not watch nor own a TV. I would have liked to have heard more about Pres. Putin's visit to Austria. But, I think President Putin is wise enough to know that not all Austrians are at this mans emotional and biased level.

  36. That journalist must interview Trump as well….and at the end compare both interviews . I wander if he is going to have the same attitude and approach . And if he has it ,how long Trump will stand him? …but that will never happen trump is so great now and I doubt he will spend one hour of his life to be interviewed from Austrian Gay tv(Bruno)

  37. clearly, a biased journalist even Putin which is promoting his people's interests (his job) is more objective.

  38. Putin is not used to being asked inconvenient questions. He is used to long monologues with Kremlin moderators. This interviewer has some balls! Kudoz!

  39. I don't get why there are so many hateful comments about the journalist here. If you had watched at least some of the interviews with Putin, you would've known that he uses the same whataboutisms, vague answers, responses like: "the choice of people in Russia/Ukraine/Syria/Chechnya etc", "they are not opposition but clowns with now support", statements that contradict the ones he made before, and even clear lies. Moreover, he manages to grasp most of the interview time with this crap, and there's no other way to have a productive interview, but to interrupt him and demand clear, short, and concrete answers. The fact that journalist keeps this in mind shows he is very well prepared.

  40. telegram добавили в черный список. vpn запрещен. в россии не свободный интернет.

  41. Putin is a Zionist, too. He is a member of the Chabat Lubavitch sect, Trump and Roman Abramovic also are.

  42. Putin is a lying sack of shit! Kosovo got their independence because the Serbs were committing, as in the whole of Yugoslavia, systemic killings the War Crime Court called "Genocide" Nothing like this occurred in Crimea to justify his "little green Russian man"!! MH17 was downed by a Russian military unit, the proof is overwhelming…even to the Malaysians! Putin is another pathetic psychopath comparable;le to Trump, with the exception Putin, has blood on his hands, supporting another mass murdered Assad… with the murderous rampage of Syrians civilians bombed by the valourous Russian Air Forces!! Russia has been a thorn on the side of humanity for the last 100 years, and Putin just fits the bill again and again!

  43. So many Russian trolls here.

    Admit it. Putin did not responded a single question. All the respect to Armin Wolf for interrupting him from telling bullshits and trying to avoid direct answer.

  44. Why is it that journalists who do not use their own intelligence are permitted to interview Pres Putin? At least Megan Kelley was more pleasant to look at

  45. I thought the interviewer did very well. He was competent and pressed hard where he felt was needed. Putin tried to evade a few questions by pushing the conversation in a different direction and countering with a question of his own. With that being said, I feel like he still is the most competent and respectable leader in the modern world. Great interview!

  46. nur vorwärts, im Zeitalter der Außerirdischen Rasse!!! only forward, in an age of alien race!!! только вперед, в век инопланетной расы!!!

  47. Thanks for the question about the "troll factory", a cunning liar left the answer, it's not surprising

  48. Seems to me, THE PRESS is a HUGE problem world-wide! There are many leaders, in all the countries…why not DO something about this problem collectively?

  49. MR PUTIN..IT SEEMS IS AT PEEK PERFORMANCE BY WAY OF HIS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY..
    A REAL CHESS PLAYER..
    HOW OUR PRESIDENT..COULD BE THIS DISTRACTED WITH TRIVIAL THINGS LIKE FOOTBALL..STRIPPERS..AND PASS STAFF SECURITY CLEARANCE IS BEYOND ME..
    HE MIGHT BE OUR NATION'S NUM 1 SECURITY THREAT..

  50. Do not trust to this propaganda! I am form Russia and this is fake news. Everybody in Russia knows what they are fake, because your goverment wants make everyone here hate Europe and think what Putin is awesome, what's why they showed this bullshit. DO NOT TRUST IT! Every news you should check and specially, which came from Russia.

    In real, jurnalist asked him really good questions, and Putin failed them all.

  51. vladimir putin fait epiez mes camarades septsnazs alors avec eux nous lui faisons boummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm = ouverture de perquizition! puis ajouter aussi ! melanchon dans le fion boummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  52. Putin just exposed the fact that Trump has NO control over
    his own military and military industrial complex.
    Trump is a fraud: a spinelesspuippet of his neo=con jew masters
    His business and fortune is all funded by and in debt to jewish banks.

    NOTHING TRUMPS SAYS IS DONE
    TRUMP BULLSHITS
    YEARS LATER HIS STINKING LIES ARE EXPOSED
    HE will be the most hated and despised American president in history.
    His narcissistic ignorance and illiteracy and stupidity and senility
    is being used by jews to create a 3rd nuclear world war.

  53. Кто-то может объяснить почему этот полудурок якобы знающий несколько языков слушает переводчика?

  54. What is startling was the general air of behavior of the interviewer. He comes across, bizarrely, as a little girl. The West has so cucked its males, thanks to feminazis, that it is emotional, superior, self-righteous, and impatient interviewers (again, essentially the behavior pattern of a little girl) that get the on-air time slots. This is all the insanity of irrational, controlling females.

  55. Still better than the interview with Megyn Kelly.. The interviewer was by far not as aggressive and arrogant,.. Seems more like a serious discussion to me with a few interruptions (still not polite though) rather than an outright attack strategy of repeating the same questions to get putin angry and make him look bad in their edited/censored version on TV..

  56. Sucked too much cock this clown and his brain has imploded, how could anyone become so stupid, it is not a natural occurence.

  57. How i wish other world leaders would learn from president putin to embrase peace deal and make the world great again for us all

  58. is the interviewer is a journalist or take interview from president of a country which is one of the powerful country in the world., or he interrogating the president ?at all standard its not an interview its arguments and denying president statement, how he allowed to take interview from a president . the interviewer is simple a piece of shit , and look at his questions and interruption among answering, i think putin show great patient and respond respectably which the journalist not worthy.

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