Film Theory: Gravity Falls ISN’T OVER! (Bill Cipher LIVES!)

Film Theory: Gravity Falls ISN’T OVER! (Bill Cipher LIVES!)

Dipper: Good night Mabel. Mabel: Good night dipper
[Evil Laughter]
Bill: Oh, Gravity Falls, it is good to be back!
[Film Theory theme plays]
Hello Internet! Welcome to yroehT mliF.
Destroying your favorite show’s perfect endings one by one.
And today is gonna be no exception.
Partly because Gravity Falls is a show that I never want to end,
but mostly because when you look at how this show
actually ended, the evidence points to there being much more to this story
than we saw play out on screen. Now the show’s final
trilogy of episodes at first glance
does pretty much everything that a great series finale is supposed to:
Family grudges are forgiven, loved ones are saved and evil is finally defeated.
But rewatching the finale, there was one thing that just didn’t quite sit right with me.
In the finale, Bill Cipher, Evil Dorito of Gravity Falls,
travels to our world to create the apocalypse he calls “Weirdmageddon”.
However once here on earth he realizes that he’s trapped in Gravity Falls due to the town’s
Ford: “Natural law of weirdness magnetism”
in order to escape and spread his reign of Weirdness to the rest of the world, Bill has to get inside the mind of one man:
Ford Pines; resident genius,
paranormal investigator and great-uncle to our heroes Dipper and Mabel.
However, this requires that Bill make a deal with Ford by shaking his hand.
To defeat Bill once and for all
Ford and his twin brother Stanley switched clothes to trick Bill
into making the deal with the much less able minded Stan.
With the deal made and Bill now
trapped inside Stan’s head, Ford uses a gun that can erase memories on Stanley,
wiping out everything in his mind,
including Bill Cipher himself.
Stan, in a moment of pure heroism, makes the ultimate sacrifice;
losing himself,
losing his identity, and losing all memories of the loved ones he left behind…
…for about three minutes.
Yeah, it’s not all that much of a sacrifice as it turns out,
as Stan’s memories come back in less time than it takes to mix up a blender full of Mabel Juice.
So what’s going on here?
Thankfully Journal No. 3 gives us a little more context on how all this happened:
Quote: “It turns out that the memory rays effects can be undone
through exposure to important images and people from your past.
The reason Stan recovered so much faster
is that we began recovery while the eraser was still fresh-less than an hour or after contact.” end quote.
But at this point you’ve probably figured out where I’m going with all this.
If all of grunkle Stan’s memories weren’t permanently wiped out,
would that also mean that Bill Cipher wasn’t permanently wiped out?
It’s a question that fans have been asking for the past two years. Is Bill Cipher, the main
antagonist of Gravity Falls, really dead?!
And I am here today to tell you NO!
Bill Cipher is alive and well and living in
with Jacques Brel.
Sorry! Sorry, never mind that last bit,
it’s a really obscure musical theater reference
that no one and I mean no one will get.
In all seriousness though looking at all the evidence
from the end of the show, as well as content
that’s been released after the series ended,
points to Bill Cipher still kicking around.
And not just kicking around!
What we unearthed today will not only change your thoughts about the end of the series,
but also everything you thought you knew about one of your favorite characters.
Excellent! Grappling hook away!
First, we can absolutely prove that Bill isn’t dead.
During the finale, when Bill was trapped inside Stan’s mind,
Bill decides to make these strange noises:
!nruter yam i taht rewop tneicna eht ekovni I !nrub ot emoc sah emit yM !L-T-O-L-O-X-A
These are his last words of the series,
so you’d think he would have chosen his words a little more carefully. Or, you know, just chosen words.
But here’s the thing, he actually did choose those words very specifically,
the only reason why it sounds like gibberish to us
is because he’s talking backwards.
Just reverse the clip and you get this:
“Invoke the ancient power that I may return”.
That makes it pretty clear that he ain’t planning on leaving this mortal coil anytime soon,
but what’s all this about an axolotl?
Well, it turns out that the answer is given to us in a book
titled “Dipper and Mabel And the Curse of the Time Pirates’ Treasure!”.
Now, this book was confirmed to be non-canon,
except Alex Hirsch, the creator of the show, tweeted that it does contain “one ENORMOUS *canon* secret”. So in the book Dipper and Mabel end up face-to-face with this all powerful cosmic axolotl,
and are each granted one question.
Dipper asks the very responsible and very logical question of
“What do you know about Bill Cipher?”
To which the axolotl replies
quote: “Sixty degrees that come in threes.
Watches from within birch trees.
Saw his own dimension burn.
Misses home and can’t return.
Says he’s happy. He’s a liar.
Blame the arson for the fire.
If he wants to shirk the blame,
He’ll have to invoke my name.
One way to absolve his crime.
A different form, a different time.”
End quote.
Gotta love those classic rhyming couplets. Now look at those last few lines:
“Invoke my name, to absolve the crimes as a different form in a different time.”
Yeah, this is pretty obvious why Bill was chanting in Reverse
right before he was literally brainwashed away,
and presumably the axolotl granted his wish,
preserving him in a different form and a different time.
That’s a pretty strong case for Bill still being alive,
but if that’s truly the case, then that begs the question of what new form could he possibly be in?
Well, why not the form that he was already trapped in?
Grunkle Stan!
And that isn’t just speculation! Most of the post-show content
that’s come out, and believe me,
there’s been a lot for a show that’s been gone for two years, has signaled pretty heavily that Bill Cipher
continues to exist within Stan’s mind.
Case in point: the Cipher Statue Hunt.
Shortly after Gravity Falls ended, Alex Hirsch made it very clear that there was a
real-life Bill Cipher statue hidden somewhere in the US,
and that in order to find it, fans would have to solve a worldwide
treasure hunt. And while that is
absolutely cool in and of itself, the most
interesting part of this whole thing was that it appeared to be led by
Grunkle Stan. One of the very first clues to the hunt was a phone number. When you called it,
you would be greeted by this answering machine message:
Immediately you can recognize Stan’s voice, but something’s a bit off. It’s in Reverse!
Now, this definitely could just be some attempt to make the quest slightly harder,
but it’s worth noting that every time a character has ever spoken in Reverse during the series, it was because of Bill.
In the episode “Dreamscapers”, Gideon speaks in Reverse after reading a chant that summons Bill:
Egassem sdrawkcab. egassem sdrawkcab. Egassem sdrawkcab! Egassem sdrawkcab!
In “A Tale of Two Stan’s”, Ford (It’s McGucket MatPat -_-) speaks backwards after falling into a dimensional portal and seeing Bill:
Not to mention that every
single opening theme ends with whispers in reverse, before we’re greeted with a flash of the Cipher Wheel.
Every time someone speaks in reverse on the show, it seems to be an association with Bill Cipher.
So the fact that we catch Stan Pines speaking in reverse over the phone is already incredibly suspicious,
but the evidence doesn’t just end there.
All objects found throughout this treasure hunt tended to be related to either Bill or Grunkle Stan.
There were Stanbucks, a jigsaw puzzle of Bill Cipher,
a golden Stan head, and a few other recordings of Stan giving out clues.
It was always these two characters that the Cipher Hunt kept coming back to.
An odd choice when considering that there were so many other
characters that fans would have loved to hear from.
You know, like the heroes of the show Dipper and Mabel, or Soos,
or Wendy or literally anyone else associated in this series!
It’s almost as if the creators were hinting towards a connection between Bill and Stan.
Eventually the fans found the Bill Cipher statue,
and beside it was a chest filled with some pretty interesting things.
There was a Journal No. 3 book that had a drawing of Stan, Ford, and Soos,
but if you hover a black light on this page,
you’ll find Bill Cipher drawn in with invisible ink directly next to Stan’s head,
once again indicating that he’s alive and well and
suspiciously close to Grunkle Stan,
but there was something else in there that definitely caught my attention.
When I was researching this theory, in the chest there was a
USB Drive of Grunkle Stan singing “We’ll meet again” by Vera Lynn.
Don’t know when
We’ll meet again. Don’t know where. Don’t know wheeeeen
It’s an important song choice to make note of since it’s the exact same song that Bill Cipher sang to Ford Pines
in the Gravity Falls finale.
We’ll meet again, Don’t know where, Don’t know when
Coincidence? In this show?! Yeah, right! Stan goes on to congratulate you on finding his statue:
Stan: Hey guys,
congratulations on finding my
mysterious treasure of the
statue in the forest!
A very interesting choice of words to be sure.
Then shortly after he recommends that you shake the statues hand!
Stan: Shake his hand, that’s kind of like a prize.
We’ve already gone over how Bill Cipher is notorious for making deals
that require shaking his hand and Stan knows this as much as anyone else!
So why would he be encouraging us to shake Bill Ciphers hand as if that’s some sort of prize?!
Unless of course, this isn’t Stanley talking,
It’s Bill!
Bill talking through Stanley, encouraging people to shake his statues hand in the real world,
potentially as a means of trying to escape from the body
he’s already trapped in. Trying to make a deal through the statue.
Seem like too much of a stretch?
Honestly, I thought so too at first.
But we already know that Bill can mimic someone else’s voice
when he’s in their body, because we’ve seen the exact same thing happen before on the show.
Specifically when he was controlling Blendin Blandin the time-traveling agent
in the episode “Mabel and Dipper VS The Future”
So it’s definitely plausible that the person we’re listening to isn’t Stanley at all.
But I know, I know, there’s still one big problem that I’m sure a lot of you’ll be asking in the comments.
If Bill is still alive, and is somehow controlling
Stanley, then why in the finale aren’t his eyes yellow with an
elongated pupil? The signature look of someone who’s under Bill Cipher’s control.
Well, it’s because Bill only controls
Stan when he sleeps. Now, before you run down to the comments to tell me that that’s a huge leap in logic,
hear me out here. It is canonically something Bill has done in the past,
specifically with Stan’s brother Ford.
In the Official Journal No. 3 book, Ford describes a deal that he made with Bill
thirty years before the events of the show, a deal where he let Bill
enter his mind and control his body,
but during the terms of the deal, Bill could only control
Stanford’s body when was sleeping.
Page 118 of the journal, quote:
“I awoke this morning to find that my muse was true to his word!
There in my notebook were 6 hours worth of beautifully written
calculations, perfectly sufficient to keep me on schedule.”
End quote.
What starts as a mutually beneficial relationship though
quickly deteriorates as Ford starts to fear Bill’s influence, and actively tries to stay awake
for fear that Bill will continue taking control of his body again when he falls asleep.
Page 142, quote again:
“I fell asleep on my cot only to awake sitting at my desk
staring at the strange symbols inscribed below…
he is taking advantage while I sleep.”
End quote.
This tells us that it is very possible Bill is only
controlling Stan at night! Notice how in the Cipher hunt, we never actually see Stan’s face,
only a bunch of pre-recorded audio files.
Audio files that could have been set up in the middle of the night.
So there you have it! A theory on Bill Cipher being alive, and trapped inside Stanley’s mind.
I think there’s a lot of evidence for it, but you know,
while I was researching this theory it struck me:
It’s pretty crazy how close these two characters are with each other.
It’s almost as if they’ve been connected on a deeper level since the very beginning.
I mean, they’re the only two characters who both refer to Ford as “sixer”.
Stan: Hey, what’s the word ‘sixer’?
Bill: A deal’s a deal ‘sixer’!
That’s a pretty weird coincidence. They both tell people to buy gold before the impending apocalypse.
Bill: Buy gold!
Stan: You’ve been buying gold, right?
They even do that whole “Einie, Meanie, Minie, You” thing.
Stan: Einie, Meanie, Minie… you.
Bill: Einie, Meanie, Minie… YOU!
“One way to absolve his crime.
A different form, A different time.”
In the episode “The Inconveniencing”,
Mabel has a hallucination where a giant dog talks backwards.
He tells her to:
We’ve already established how backwards talk tends to relate to Bill,
and now we have someone speaking backwards
telling us not to trust Grunkle Stan?
I know he had a couple secrets within the show,
but none of them were so serious that it was caused to really distrust him.
This even puts a whole new meaning on the cryptogram found in the title sequence: “Stan is not what he seems.”
All the Gravity Falls theorists just kind of brush that one off as a reference to him having this secret twin,
but what if it was referring to something else the entire time? Could it really be possible that these two
characters are actually one and the same?
Guess that’s a theory for another day…
In the meantime remember!
Reality isn’t real, the universe is a hologram, and that’s just a theory…


  1. Guys! I know where bill is trapped! In blendin blandin! Think about it, different form, different time
    drops microphone

  2. The song Stan sings could be to Dipper because he has a pine tree his family is called the pines and the main character is a big character and dipper collects all 3 books what ford made Dipper probably has see all about bill and bill may have made a deal with Bill maybe his new form is Mabel because who else can get into his mind but Mabel Stan could be apart of his power he could have put has much as he much as he can and as it says he comes in three maybe he can be 3 beings

  3. Wait you said a different form a different time so that means that bill sipher is almost a god he meet with a god and that also means he is rebirth in the past or the future but doesn't remeber nothing and haves a different body so yes that he still alive but not in standly's head but also he will still remember and also the god is the salamander guy gave him a other life so alsssoooo sorry for saying this allot but that means that bill siphr is every person in his universe but why did bill siphr went to gravity falls universes. I'm not saying that the things you said is rong well a little bit rong but you didn't finish yet and there still a mystery that gravity falls still haves but not in the show in fiction or reality so as I was saying why did he wants to rule the universe's all the universe's that other gods made because he wants to be the goddddd of alllll the gods that's why he killed his own race and if he doesn't get killed again he will remember every thing time by time and then he will have more power and kill every thing so its just his universe's. Now thats a theory a my theory and Me

  4. I feel bad for bill like the axolotl said "saw his own dimension burn. *Misses home and can't return*.
    Says he's happy,he's a liar" like he probably didn't really mean it and based on some things I Read a trauma can cause negative effects on his or her future so that's probably the reason he is such a villain here he must just feel bad or sad

  5. Btw he says A-X-O-L-O-T-L my time has come to burn I invoke the ancient power that I may return (just turn on the captions)

  6. What I if "A different time" is the present for them, that's why Stan wanted the books and dipper and mable changed his mind 🤔

  7. Matpat and me are both therist matpat is smarter than me though and we both have like the same thearys how also I over anilise EVERYTHING that is why people think smart I'm like L from death note but a little dumber same thing with matpat but he has the same IQ as L that's also why I'm super perinoid like shit also spiders

  8. yeyeyeeeee cuz the axolotl said "another form, another time" yata yata but the "another time" part could mean in the past when stan was born or something, and he was controlling grunkle stan this WHOLE TIME!!!! ik mind blown righhhht?! XD

  9. Alex might have based the cipher statue hunt off of Bill and Stanley probably because he could actually voice those two characters and they were probably his favorites.

  10. I got a theory. So in Weirdmageddon 1 the journals are burned by Bill when Dipper tries to stop him, but in the copy of journal 3 in real life it says it says why Stan's memory was still fresh. But, if Ford, Dipper, or whoever wrote in the journal had to have the journal after Weirdmageddon. If that's the case, then journal 3 or any of the other journals would still be fine. I have something to back this up. When all the effects are reversed from gravity falls, the journals being burned were reversed. So the journals are still around. But if the journals are still around, then who has them? I'm not sure about this but it's probably Bill. If this film theory is correct, then technically Bill has a hold of them. Which is not good, and to add on to that at the ending of Weirdmageddon 3, Stan and Stanford go fight monsters and treasure hunt, but Stan is still with Ford and if and if Stan is possessed by Bill, then Bill has the journals and can cause chaos, use the powers in the journal against ford, or conquer the world because he is not in Gravity Falls which is surrounded by the law of weirdness magmatism, I hope I said that right, and take over the world except for Gravity Falls because of that weirdness law. There you have it.

  11. VERY, VERY bad video to watch right before going to bed. Not to mention that the outro music gives me the chills.

    "People can get still scared at any age, right..? It's ok" Tries to calm self down but it doesn't work well

    I HATE Bill if you can't tell already

    why did i watch this…….

  12. Yo what if Bill Cipher actually is in the form of Stan but at a different time, and what if that different time had already been, and the time was in the past meaning that Stan is Cipher all along, and what if getting his brother back wasn't the only thing he wanted with the books, maybe he copied it, while being in stans form, just tot study the study's of Ford, so Cipher knows what Ford knows, Just to think of the perfect way to defeat Ford.

    Maybe im Just to high

  13. anyone else notice that when stans memories where wiped theres a mystery mug like the one that gets sucked into the rick and morty portal…?


    okay ill go then…

  14. What if Gruncle Stan IS Bill? Like actually IS. Maybe Gruncle Stan is entirely created for the sole purpose of containing Bill and making sure he's alive in a diff form? Make sense since the form that he'd be really familiar with is Gruncle's Stan's bro, and just copied it which is why they look so similar. Maybe the reason why Gruncle Stan acts like he does is because Bill may have forgotten who he is, and a part of his consiousness returned when Gruncle Stan had Bill locked in his mind?
    Or… meh. I could be wrong😂
    Or… meh.

  15. So I know this was done a long time ago but I found out a theory what if so the Axolotl says in another time in another place what is the other time was before Gravity Falls started… just think about that.

  16. The memory gun has a function to type in what memories you want to erase, and the memories go into a little storage tube. So if the gun worked as they said it does, they would have erased ONLY bill cipher by typing in “Bill Cypher” on the gun. Bill would be stored in a memory tube safely.

    They forgot how the memory ray works as shown in the Society of the Blind Eye episode

  17. I Shaked His Hands It’s Fake But The Demon Isn’t The Show Is Telling You Don’t Trust If You Wacht It People Say Don’t Trust But That Only From The Demon I Wish I Could Say More But That’s All I Have Oh Yeah I Think The Cat Is The Demon That’s All I Have!

  18. Bill and uncle Stan both know they are not real and they are just cartoon like dead pool. Also A-X-O-T-O-L-O spells the name of the weird beast so he can see it and learn that he has bill cipher living in him

  19. That may sound stupid, but I have another theory of this. Instead of Bill controlling Stan's mind, I think Bill is still alive in the memory tube thingy. When Mabel steps on it, she breaks the glass but not the tube, meaning that Bill could be trapped inside Stan's old memory.

  20. Just saying, Bill should have been a musician instead of taking over the world. It would have been better for him. Same thing to Voldemort. He'd be an excellent mind reader. Seriously, people are bad guys since they have never found their passion.

  21. A different form, A DIFFERENT TIME.

    Maybe he is not even in their time, maybe he is 100 years after that events, or maybe even 1000. If its a different time, it looks like a good possibility

  22. I just want to point out that Stan and Ford are supposedly traveling around the world and if Bill is in Stan's body, he might have been in Paris.

  23. A different form a different time… he goes back in a different form and that form is stab when he was born he was at a different time oh my god

  24. when he stopped saying it he said Stanley people might have thought that he was trying to kill him before he died but I think he chose Stanley because how he said it plus think about this if you wanted the journalyou would choose a form that would be close to the person who wrote it so why not Stanley Ford's twin brother

  25. most sane people:never shake the hand
    inches towards the statue
    slowly shakes the hand while giving a creepy ass smile to the people
    and that is why weirdmeggadon exists.

  26. I am in 2019- And i need more information on this dorito

    And i have info myself- when axlotl says "A different form and a different time " He didn't literally say the future nor the past? So im like-

    What if Bill Cipher IS stanley pines? Like- BORN? And- you know where im going

  27. idk if anyone has noticed this but look at stans hat, the fish had a triangle for a mouth, and there is a circle in the center,, bill its a triangle with one eye…. see what i mean?

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