Biblical ‘Noah’ Believer Baffled by Basic Questions

Biblical ‘Noah’ Believer Baffled by Basic Questions


I’m joined today by Larry stone he is
the author of the books
know what the real story the story of
the Bible
and women over the Bible larry it’s
great to have you know we’ve been
following a lot of the controversy
surrounding the movie Noah and
I we’ve spoken with Ray Comfort for
example who is an evangelical preacher
he said he was disappointed and
disrespected but not offended by the
departure
in the hollywood Noah from the biblical
know a story
so let’s first go to you and give us a
sense so
what’s your opinion love the story is
told by the Hollywood movie
well what’s really interesting is the
variety the wide variety
opinions are out there by Christians and
others
about the movie the movie does not
follow along
the Bible story very closely I mean that
brought outline is there
but the details are just all over the
place
the biggest problem is and many others
had already mentioned this
that in the Bible the reason for the
flood is
that god looked down and saw that
mankind was evil
the Bible talks about weakness
corruption
violence sexual immorality and yet in
the movie
the reason for the flood is Mann’s dis
respect for the environment
the so characterize a minute what’s your
personal opinion do you take offense to
these departures in this story from the
story of the Bible in the movie rather
from the story in the Bible
was I A offended I was really offended
so much is
board you were bored by it yet
you know I I actually think that one in
the main issues that’s coming up in the
discussions above
over the movie and there’s also doesn’t
like an alternative movie that Ray
Comfort has helped put out I don’t know
if you’re familiar with that which he
says are
is closer of course did to the what is
called the true story
I think the problem is that today in
society if we look at people’s beliefs
overall about sacred texts including the
Bible
the koran et cetera increasingly
people just don’t believe that the
biblical story is literally true to
begin with
so we’re seeing increasingly that people
say I don’t really care
whether the movie follows the Bible
menu script so to speak or a hollywood
producers
because they’re both works of fiction
and I think that’s why there’s not that
much traction
with the Christian groups that are upset
you
I is with its interesting that you raise
an interesting point because
I have red that many comments on what
the Christians are saying I mean
there’s all kinds of comments from
Christian yet you should read my email
I’ll tell you where you should really
you should really look at the emails
I’ve been getting better because I get
emails from people saying that
that that the Darren Aronofsky and all
the producers will be going to hell
because they’ve not present at the live
literal view and I mean age I should
give you 10 minutes into it with my
inbox you have a field they’ll tell you
I i’m sure they’re there yeah are
but I i think that we need
ask is what is no story in the Bible
really telling us
and the discussion to whether that story
is literal or not is a whole different
discussion
yes I think it is didn’t really happen I
think there was a flood I think there
wasn’t a lot I think the
did take the animals on the art really
yeah but what whether that really happen
what the Bible is telling us is that
guided
takes sin very very seriously me
and I think today weekend not to
the some the Bible also says
that God was grieved because have the
same he saw on mankind he took it so
seriously he said
I’m going to wipe out the world and God
hunches Sen
and I think today we don’t take that so
seriously well that may be but I’m
interested larry because in speaking to
you in reading what you’ve written
it’s clear that you’re a very well-read
intelligent guy you’re you’re
oratory skills are very strong but when
I examine
the fact over the suppose that story of
Noah I have some
areas were I really run up against
questions and I’ll tell you what some of
them are and give you the opportunity to
respond
up the conditions that would have been
necessary
on the arc to fulfill the all kinds of
animals for months and so on and so
forth
would be completely on survivable by
scientific standard simply not possible
if it were true now let me just get a
few of them out if it were true that we
had all kinds of animals on the arc we
would actually see a distribution of
species on Earth today
that would be nothing at all like it is
in actuality
the rough construction of the ship would
have completely prevented
the needs if the animals to be met
properly if I’m kinda making myself
clear without being too graphic
there are just so many areas Noah being
100 years old then
tending to all of the animals with just
a couple of other people
none of that is even remotely possible
scientifically speaking
so I’m shocked that you believe it to be
true well except for one thing
yeah you’re wrong okay now
easy answer for me because I could go
through each one of those
yes issue for me to say is read the book
because
in the book know the real story I
address each
one of those that for instance we can’t
say for sure
how North fed the animals but weakens
make some suppositions and say he could
have done it
this way but the problem with those
arguments larry that I have the problem
I have is that when you make
on falsify a ball assertions those are
evidence have anything I feel sorry for
people
who hear you say well David here’s the
thing we can come up with
things he could have done and I couldn’t
say to you larry you know
here specifically why he couldn’t have
done that
that’s not evidence if any but the
problem is you just done the same thing
back to me to begin with
for instance you said you could not
possibly have kept that many animals
on that boat for that long right that’s
not an unabomb that that’s no but we
have to define terms I
this is a kid playing I can’t let the
audience I don’t wanna let the audience
get bamboozled here
saying that scientific the scientific
consensus
and the history of shipbuilding and all
love this
data tells us wanna be your assertions
is impossible is very different than you
saying well David
you don’t know that they didn’t do XY or
Z those are drastically different things
get them pic one
air because she you’re touching at about
seventeen different areas maybe a dozen
different
aerial that so many problems they are
with the story yeah I’m sorry that’s how
many problems there are with Lori I know
that special absolutely fascinating that
there’s actually
answers to all these things SL I would
have to say
read the book or we could pick one and
talk about it well let’s talk a lot I’ll
just pick one and I’m curious what you
would say so
there are animals that eat other animals
how could know I have prevented
those animal howdy prevent any species
from disappearing because you only had
to have each kind remember
how could he have prevented any to
animals or even one right which would
have made them go extinct if you only
have a male or female left
how did no animals get eaten by other
animals
there’s I has to do with what Noah
fed those animals now the obvious one
obvious
answer and this this point and making it
up because I’m not but ran into exactly
that kind of question
isn’t you have a 454 long art yeah
you can have lines roaming around the
whole 450 foot-long art
we can put the lines in one place and
other animals in another place
I’m making that up yeah I now but that’s
the only way you can
answer that kinda question how did Noah
keep the lines from eating
other animals yeah the any of that and
that larry does that strike you as a
strong explanation
it but it strikes me as the only
explanation okay i right
well so there’s one and that’s
interesting and like you said there are
way more than seventeen in these
hopefully the audience can evaluate
a surfer 1 yeah the question is how many
animals were on the arc
yeah and and there are people that say
you can’t get a million animals on the
art right I know you guys have an answer
for this though
because there are limited kinds there
are there are he didn’t have every
species just every kind the problem with
that
is that if we date when this took place
it would be
impossible to have the number of species
we have now
if there were only 2 I’ve each kinda
just doesn’t make sense but I know that
that’s the answer there were only two a
beach kind
not to have each species right the
we can talk about any these details a
real it somebody’s really interested
yesterday read a book now I encourage
them to have to say about my book
yeah is intentionally short
and it gives some other details but
there are web sites
their books I have a 500 page book here
the talk just about the geology of the
flood
okay and I think most people don’t want
to read a 500 page book
I found it fascinating but what I try to
do is summarize some of these issues
so the point I’ll know the real story is
to give you a framework
right and then if you want to go and
look at Wendys other areas if you want
to explore
some other talks some %uh vs stories a
people that have searched for the art an
error at yeah I’ll give you a framework
for beginning to look at that all right
very good Larry stone the book is know
what the real story
we certainly have disagreements but it’s
been a lively conversation and I do
appreciate it
yes and 80 others mention one other
thing there is a website connecting the
book
WWW dot Noah the real story dot com
and in addition to a lot of these
details on that website
you also have a a discussion guide
so that if you want to go see the movie
go with some friends
talk about the movie and use a
discussion guide as a guide to what
you’re gonna
certainly and if you gonna do that I
encourage you to check out some of the
other discussion guides that are
available online that would present a
critical view
love that as well I think both would be
equally important larry thank you for
being on
thank you David

100 comments

  1. GOD created water, yet HE can't flood the earth. GOD created animals, yet HE can't keep them alive through a flood. GOD created the natural world, yet HE can't sustain the natural world post flood. Seems to me that the minds of non-believers are limited by their limited understanding.

  2. Haha "uhhhh.. Read my book!" "Idk how to explain that, but read my book!" Why the fuck would someone read your book if you can't even defend even one of the most obvious plot holes?

  3. I have invited Mr. Sargent and another flat earther, who's name I can't remember to come to where I live so they can see for themselves the curve over the horizon from my house to the mountains across the Moray Firth, but for some reason they haven't taken up my offer.

  4. Ooops wrong place. Just a thought. Who went out and caught all those wild animals, and……….who went to South America and North America for all their wild life?
    Another question. When did this happen? As the earth would have to have repopulated, and would there have been enough time for the diversity of races to have come about.

  5. 'How did Noah feed the carnivores?'

    'Erm… he kept the lions down the other end of the boat…'

    That doesn't answer the actual question though does it buddy? What a joke this guy is.

  6. I'm curious about all the innocent people that would've died in the biblical global flood. I highly doubt that Noah's family were the ONLY innocent people in that story. Besides, there's just way too many questions that it can't answer.

  7. Even if the story is metaphorical, think about this: God kills all humans except Noah and his family. And NOAH is the best he can come up with? A drunken man who sleeps with his daughters, and condemns one son for seeing him naked–as if that's his fault? Then there's an identical story with Lot and his daughters–to keep humans procreating. And what kind of sick morality to offer his virgin daughters to a rape mob to protect his male guests–be they angels or whatever? This is the Judeo-( and presumably Christian) morality that we're to honor?

  8. David, sir, I'm not convinced that this Biblical tale is believable as written. But you need to read Genises chapter 7. It says that God told Noah to put 7 of all the clean animals and all the fouls of the air. And he did, which gave Noah plenty of animals for food and sacrifices. I don't know why this so cslledan of God didn't tell you this. Also my pastor taught that God caused the animals to board the ark.

  9. I like your videos but you made a mistake , the Bible never said he took only two of each. You should read that again. He took 14 of the clean beast x7 male and his female. And four of the unclean.x2 male and his female 4. You should read that again.

  10. Whenever I hear "Sacred texts" it sounds like some sort of fantasy world and I'm on a fetch quest for a cult

  11. …simple… as many 'kinds' as we have now, before the flood there were twice as many… one half simply ate the other half.. that's why they're not around and we don't miss them because didn't know they existed to begin with…

  12. came across a site called http://www.theresurrectiondecree.com/ looks at Christianity with reason and logic. Worth a look with some interesting information not well known. Covers a historical analysis of the resurrection including Jesus outside the bible, and other important topics. And answers skeptic accusations. Good source for both people of faith and atheists alike, if anyone's interested.

  13. I agree with the unfalsifiable evidence being a problem. Though both sides only had this evidence with exception to the construction, ship building, of the ark. And that was a false statement. We don’t have a purpose for such a large boat, but we could build one that big and the design gives evidence, through model experiments, that the dimensions are ideal to weather storms and tsunami

  14. I am pretty sure in the beginning the story was about the good man who rescued his whole big family and their cattle, dogs and cats. Down the road it became bigger, nicer, a bit added here a bit goldfoil there and voila, there it was, finally written down after how many generations of mouth to ear.

  15. The interviewer: "What do you have to say about the fact that this story really happening is completely scientifically not possible?…
    Fundalmentalist Christian being interviewed: "you're wrong." Lol!!!

  16. God should either stop wanting obedience, which is why he gave the free will-Being the psychological mechanism that caused sin (which god eliminated innocent beings to try and wipe out), OR god simply shouldn't have created life.

  17. Dude if you can't answer the simplest questions in an interview, I'm not going to read your book.

  18. As an Australian, we understand Aboriginal history to be over 40000 years on the main land. Why would god wipe out these people? They didn’t do anything to anyone. And if they were wiped out in a planet wide biblical flood, how is it that they’re still here?
    Geological evidence of salt water and sea life on the Australian mainland dates back millions of years. Predating mankind. Where did these people come from if they were exterminated into extinction?
    Of course we know they weren’t decimated. The flood never happened.

  19. Small child starts ant farm. Ants don't do what child wants. Child has tantrum and fills ant farm with water, drowning the ants. Same story.

  20. "Noah the real story" ha ha ha ha ha the "real" story. I have a book here – the gospel according to Fred Flintstone. It is a fascinating book – I recommend it.

  21. Man has tried to explain the unexplainable. The Bible is a book of allegories and metaphors. If you look at it like that you will get overstanding. I don't know why he complaining the movie producers were only copying a fairy tale

  22. You mean to tell me that a two toed sloth traveled all the way from South America with at least a bridge to Mesopotamia……plz

  23. WHERE DID THE ARK PUT ALL THE MILLIONS OF SPECIES OF INSECTS ? IF YOU SAY THAT THE ARK HAD ONLY 2 INSECTS ON IT ,AS THE BIBLE CALLED FOR ' KINDS ' NOT INDIVIDUAL INSECT SPECIES ,THAT WOULD MEAN THE MILLIONS OF INSECT SPECIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD CAME FROM THOSE 2 INSECTS IN ONLY 2500 YEARS

  24. What does the bible Noah story tell us? That the 'god' of the bible is a disgusting misanthropic piece of dogshit.

  25. Probably already posed…
    1. Where the hell did all the water come from and then disappear to?
    2. How did Noah know to go to Antarctica for penguins, New Zealand for hobbits…..all land masses undiscovered at that time.
    3. Isn't there something not quite right about good ol angry, vindictive God wiping out n-1 of all n families on the planet? And if we were made in his image, couldn't have God do a gene edit and remove his unloving and vindictive traits so then his genocide wouldn't be needed?
    4. We have evil in our society right now. So where is God The Killer when you need him?

  26. I'll agree to your interview as long as you agree to plug my book (of made-up answers), and just to be sure, I'll plug it myself three times, oh and I'll plug my website twice.

  27. 1)an ark to the dimensions listed in Genesis has been found in the mountains of Ararat, exactly where genesis states
    2)man lived longer before the flood and giant skeletons and lizards(dinosaurs) were huge which reinforces the bible on long life
    3)the Japanese made HUGE wooden ships, ignorance makes you dumb

  28. the current population supports exactly 8 people 4,500 years ago do math…..if evolution were true why isn't there trillions of people?

  29. This guy looks like if Hindenburg found religion after his diagnoses instead of making and selling Meth. I mean religious pedaling and writing books for profit in the name of “God”. Is just as criminal Meth Chemist.

  30. Noah was a space ingeeneer? He build a space ship? If you want to colect all fauna and flora you need only dna from them, right? You can recreate all this in lab, right? Like we do now in our labs, like we do child from petri dish, right? If you read bible this way story may be possible,.but of course we never ever meet one of this "creators" to tell us their story.so? If you read bible you may find there are more than one creator, god,.which one is real one?

  31. Look, im reading the comments and yall need to read a Bible.

    Mankind was so disgusting, people were banging animals eating people and sacrifcing their children to moloch. Get real God is not a murdering maniac, he just doesnt like disgusting people!

  32. Hahaha, answers to all contradictions and when an apologist cant give a definitive reply, read the book, read the book. what a joke from a Christian.

  33. The birds all got to sit on top of the ship. The animals were very skinny 40 days later. And maybe some animals did get eaten, so they don’t exist anymore. Etc. Better answer: People need to grow up and quit believing in these fairy tales.

  34. If it was so important why weren't answers given by the author of all? He had to know we would want to know these things and it would be a stumbling block for us.

  35. Hey. Buy my book. Did I mention my book? You should buy my book. All the answers are in my book that you should buy. It totally explains everything in the book I wrote which is available for purchase.

    Yay for Je$u$ science!!!

    These grifters and con men annoy me. Save your money folks. Then you’ll have some cash for when the Nigerian prince calls and needs your help!

  36. HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU STUDY NOAH'S ARK, AND NEVER GET ASKED "HOW DID HE PREVENT THE ANIMALS FROM EATING EACH OTHER"? YOU SIR FAIL.

  37. Here is more evidence dear one. There are many similarities between the Gilgamesh flood account and the biblical flood account (Genesis 6—8), beginning most importantly with God choosing a righteous man to build an ark because of an impending great flood. In both accounts, samples from all species of animals were to be on the ark, and birds were used after the rains to determine if flood waters had subsided anywhere to reveal dry land. There are other similarities between the Gilgamesh flood account and the biblical flood account.

    One major point of clear agreement is that a global flooding disaster occurred in ancient times. Portions of the Gilgamesh account (Chaldean Flood Tablets) have been found dating back to 2000 BC or earlier. Tablets containing the full story, however, date to approximately 650 BC, or well after the Genesis account (c. 1450—1410 BC). These Chaldean tablets, from the city of Ur (modern-day southern Iraq), describe how the Babylonian God Ea decided to end all life except for the ark dwellers with a great flood. Ea, believed by the Babylonians to be the god who created the earth, selected Ut-Napishtim (or Utnapishtim) to construct a six-story square ark.

    During the mid-nineteenth century, this complete “Epic of Gilgamesh” (from 650 BC) was unearthed in some ruins at Nineveh’s great library, and the depth and breadth of similarities and differences became evident. Here is a more extensive listing of the similarities and differences:

    • God (or several gods in the Gilgamesh account) decided to destroy humankind because of its wickedness and sinfulness (Genesis 6:5–7).

    • A righteous man (Genesis 6:9) was directed to build an ark to save a limited and select group of people and all species of animals (Noah received his orders directly from God, Utnapishtim from a dream).

    • Both arks were huge, although their shapes differed. Noah’s was rectangular; Utnapishtim’s was square.

    • Both arks had a single door and at least one window.

    • A great rain covered the land and mountains with water, although some water emerged from beneath the earth in the biblical account (Genesis 7:11).

    • The Noahic flood was the result of a storm lasting 40 days and nights (Genesis 7:12), while the Gilgamesh storm was much shorter: “Six days and seven nights / came the wind and flood, the storm flattening the land” (from Tablet XI, trans. by Maureen G. Kovacs)

    • Birds were released to find land (a raven and three doves in the biblical account, Genesis 8:6–12; a dove, swallow, and raven in the other).

    • After the rains ceased, both arks came to rest on a mountain, Noah’s on Ararat (Genesis 8:4); Utnapishtim’s on Nisir. These mountains are about 300 miles apart.

    • Sacrifices were offered after the flood (Genesis 8:20).

    • God was (or gods were) pleased by the sacrifices (Genesis 8:21), and Noah and Utnapishtim received blessings. Noah’s blessing was to populate the earth and have dominion over all animals (Genesis 9:1–3); Utnapishtim’s was eternal life.

    • God (or the many gods) promised not to destroy humankind again (Genesis 8:21–22).

    Perhaps most interesting is how the stories remain consistent over time. Although the complete Epic of Gilgamesh was discovered in the mid-nineteenth century, much earlier segments (before the writing of Genesis) have been discovered and dated. Yet most significant is the greater fidelity of the Hebrew account. This is attributed to the importance of Jewish oral tradition and the possibility that some of the story was recorded by Noah or from his time, which would make the Hebrew account precede the Babylonian version.

    Some scholars hypothesize the Hebrews borrowed the Babylonian account, but no conclusive proof has been offered to support this. Based on the many and varied differences and details within these stories, it seems unlikely that the biblical version depended upon an existing Sumerian source. Further, given the Jews’ reputation for passing down information scrupulously from one generation to another and maintaining a consistent reporting of events, Genesis is viewed by many as far more historical than the Epic of Gilgamesh, which is regarded as mythological because of its numerous gods and their interrelationships and intrigues in deciding the fate of humankind.

    Certainly, for those who believe the Bible is God’s Word, it is sensible to conclude He chose to preserve the true account in the Bible through the oral traditions of His chosen people. By God’s providence, His people kept this account pure and consistent over the centuries until Moses ultimately recorded it in the Book of Genesis. The Epic of Gilgamesh is believed to contain accounts which have been altered and embellished over the years by people not following the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

  38. I have the
    answer as to why the bible says Noah and Moses lived 600 and 900 years. The
    world as they knew it was a small area in the middle east. They had no
    knowledge of the global seasonal patterns. The only obvious “seasonal” occurrence
    was the stages of the moon. I believe this visual natural cycle was how they
    measured time. These cycles occurred every 28 days. Thirteen times in our year.
    28 days is one “year” for them. Divide the age for Noah and Moses by thirteen.
    Noah was 46yo, and Moses was 70yo.

  39. Is "kinds" a scientific term? I never hear people talk about kinds of animals other than creationists talking about Noah's ark.

  40. The director proudly stated that his movie was the LEAST biblical Bible based movie ever. All the weird departures from the standard Bible account were actually inspired by the Kabala, the mystical, occult Hebrew book.

    But a few things in the movie were better portrayed than what is commonly believed about details of the flood account. For instance, the crudeness of the ark's appearance in the movie is more realistic than the scaled up Florentine river barge that most people think of when they visualize the ark.

  41. "Mad Larry" made his book less than 500 pages long, because no one wants to read a book longer than that! And there lies the problem.! My daughter is 11, and when I showed her this video she had a puzzled look on her face, at the end she laughed and asked why there were so many silly people in the world!

  42. It's pointless to talk with most christians. Most are brainwashed and too far gone to have a logical conversation about religion. Bring up biblical topics and watch all logic fly out the window. They are truly sheep.

  43. "How did no animals not get eaten by other animals?" , "um..uu, ahhh,…..I haven't ran into exactly that kind of question…" Absolutely unimaginable that he would have not heard or even thought of that question himself. That aside, he hasn't run across that question before because, just like all theists, he lives in his own little theistic echo chamber. Know one asks questions like that because they know it would cause them to question their beliefs. They do not want to know the truth and they actively avoid it because they have been taught that it is the devil just trying to trick them and, if they listen, they chance being sentenced to eternal torture. Great way to control people just like all the other cults you have ever heard of huh?

  44. I was confused as hell when I saw the "Hollywood" Noah. Until I realised its the Illuminati version. And has little to do with the biblical version.

  45. Here is a riddle the oldest name for Noah is Wodan the oldest name for Odin is Wodan according to the book of Enoch Noah's family is totally shocked because they are all small dark skinned people and Noah is Blond and large , he becomes a very tall Nordic fellow ..

    Both are know for their Raven spies , Both wondered the earth both had a few thing concerning Boats and open sea voyages .. Maybe they were both the same man , people love to embellish stories and turn men of valor into G-ds and fabricate all sorts of new twists to the original , Ex: Mad MAx beyond thunder dome kids with the airplane …

    Odin is called the All Father , Noah is called the father of HUMAN BEINGS, not neanderthal Hybrids .

    Noah's abandons his family to wander the earth sad and depresses , his family maybe the new Pantheon in Sumer, in the Mesopotamian valley ? Noah The Viking King and Father of the G_ds ?

  46. And in the end of the day Noah's boat biggest hole is really the Epic of Gilgamesh (and other flood myths predating nowaday's tale, Noah)

  47. got to say: It is 21st century and this is still being debated, c'mon. Also, bravo to the interviewer for keeping an enormous amount of respect for the interviewed dude.

  48. 3:55 God punishes sin… more like the Iron Age Deuteronomical revisionists (priesthood), after their exile from Babylon, determined that the common ancient mythical narrative about creation and a world flood was a great means for keeping the people in line. Same story from Babylon, different (Hebrew) names for the characters. I don't mind if people believe in myths, it is when they say other people don't – quite – believe in the same myths the way I do and that is a sin, then we have all sorts of unexamined egoism and hypocrisy.

  49. 9:35 The point of Noah the Real Story is that we don't know if it is a real story or just a story but the story is certainly real, even if the details are mythical. No need to even read the book.

Add a Comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *